it’s all false applause and laughs! i’ve been to his studio live… they prep you to respond to the sign as to when to cheer, when to applause and make it a competition between the two sections!!
The argument that men in women's sports is a non-issue because it barely happens is totally disingenuous. Here's how to prove it:
"Okay, Kimmel, the president already signed an executive order over this thing that never happens. Since it never happens, let's stop wasting time arguing about it and abide by the executive order because it's a thing that DOESN'T MATTER."
By refusing to do this, Kimmel and his lot - not the conservatives - are the ones continuing to make a big deal over something they claim never happens and therefore isn't worth anyone's time. Their whole line of argument is a lie, because their ideology prevents them from accepting biological reality. They are in a rhetorical corner, and they at some level know it.
It should be a non-issue. But courts, judges, governments, sanctioning bodies, trans activists, school boards, late night TV hosts, woke politicians, etc. who attempt to force trans athletes into competition with women are making it an issue. It's hard to believe it's even a thing worthy of discussion, but here we are.
the focus on racism, discrimination, all precursors to this is perpetuated by the recruited armies of the democrats… They recruit and mentor and groom ! They tried it on me, they do it to the youth…
watch the documentary on “ The Coddling of American Minds” it validated what we’ve been seeing… for years now slowly evolve. Our voting choices have huge and not always immediate consequences… slow erosion. Like a body pummeled by drugs and alcohol, poor diet, over the years will eventually show signs of disease related to those choices!
This trope of "it effects virtually no one" is so easily exposed as utterly illogical. If it is such a minor issue, then why should dysphoric men care about being permitted to compete in women's sports at all (if it affects so few people)?
Politically, the point is even dumber, as your recent debate results showed. If it's such a minor issue and affects "virtually no one," why are Democrats and Green party members making of this a hill they are willing to die on? It's political malpractice to the point of being politically suicidal.
As a man who typically votes Republican, I hope Kimmel keeps going down this path.
They've already been lost, which is an additional reason why Kimmel's trope is illogical. Look no further than the governing bodies of the Olympic games for an example of womens' rights being lost. Why women do not band together and fight harder against this is the surprising part. This substack is a start.
that’s the trope they used to change the definition of marriage…. who cares?! won’t affect me!! Let em love who they want! That’s all harmless, however it is the definition change that isn’t harmless!!
We are living those consequences of those voting choices we made as a society.
true. And Colbert might even be worse! There has been some clearly observable 'metamorphosis' (over the last 20 years or so) of formerly funny tv people turning into government spokesmen. Letterman is another one--hilarious during his NBC days, gradually turning into a politicized grump during his CBS days. Craig Kilborn has strongly hinted that he basically got out of the business b/c politics doesn't interest him and he didn't want to sell his soul and become a government shill. I follow Kilby and mostly don't care about the rest of them. Norm Macdonald was really good too.
💯He is so unwatchable. All he does is bash Trump. It's so tired. I don't know how he and Adam Carolla are able to maintain a friendship but kudos to them both!
Thanks for writing this. We spent years looking forward to late night comedy and the minute Kimmel, Meyers, Colbert, even Fallon started on their pompous lecturing, no-it-all-non-comedy acts of 2020 forward, we were done. I had just photographed Editor in Chief of the Babylon Bee and his family, prior to the pandemic and if it weren't for the Bee we literally had no humor during that time. The minute humor was swept up by the state, with the exception of a few comedians, you knew it was over. And -- one of our friends lost an incredible cross-fit athletic son at 34, in 2022, due to his refusal to be vaccinated and the way he was treated, as a result, when he drove himself to the emergency room for help. Medical murder from that point on. I let the family have my Substack to call attention to this extremely scripted death. This is what Kimmel called for.
I have been a lifelong Democrat. I have voted and financially supported Democrats for years. In the last election, even though I am not a Trump lover, I voted 100% for Republicans. I voted Republican up and down the ticket.
In my mind, the Democrats were the party that advocated for the poor, supported women and gay rights, cared about the environment, and were the champions of free speech. I don’t see that anymore. There were two big issues that drove me to completely flip my voting.
The first issue is the transgender craze. I started reading books. I read the following:
Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality (Helen Joyce)
Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters (Abigail Shrier)
The Abolition of Sex: How the “Transgender” Agenda Harms Women and Girls. (Kara Dansky)
Unsporting: How Trans Activism and Science Denial are Destroying Sport (Linda Blade and Barbara Kay)
Lost in Trans Nation (Miriam Grossman)
It has become apparent to me that this insanity is growing and is not a niche issue. It directly affects well over half the population in a negative way. That >50% includes all women and girls, families with children, and children themselves. It is taking dignity, wins, and scholarships away from girls and women, it is destroying families, and it is permanently harming children who take wrong sex hormones and opt for surgery. It must end.
I know it is name calling, but I now refer to trans activists as
Trans Unhinged Radical Delusionists or TURDs
The second issue is climate/energy. Biden’s climate policies assume that the world faces an apocalyptic future if we do not aggressively attack climate change. That is just not the case.
>>If you look at the IPCC latest assessment (AR6), Working Group 1 (The Science) Chapter 12 (Risk Assessment), table 12.12 you will see that even under the most extreme and totally impossible scenario (all energy provided by coal - RPC 8.5) we won’t see increases in flooding, hurricanes, and draughts even by 2100.
Why is this important? The solutions proposed by Democrats to address climate change include replacing all our energy (in a short time frame) with wind, solar, hydro and batteries. It is not going to happen and moving in that direction will negatively affect women, particularly women in the 3rd world, the poor in general, and the rest of us through a very expensive and unreliable grid.
>>See Figure 1 Risk Area Summary – MISO’s reliability Issues
It continues to amaze me that this is even a discussion. Happy (for once) to see the common sense decision in the UK today about the definition of a woman. Again, the left sees allowing men to compete in women's sports as a hill to die on and as the tide turns they are getting more and more desperate. Kimmel's terrible ratings, along with the rest of the ridiculous talking heads, shows how irrelevant they are becoming.
Do they know they are basically talking to themselves?
Calling Trump supporters animals and having no empathy for people who chose not to get vaccinated and suggesting they deserve to die for their (hypothetical) wrong choice sounds exactly like the the attitudes i hear right now against Palestinians. "they are animals and they all asked for death when they made the wrong choice to vote for Hamas. so oh well. good riddance."
this kind of rhetoric suggesting whole groups of people are intrinsically morally corrupt and less than and are ruining things for everyone else--the good people--and therefore deserve to die or be killed is insidiously dangerous, toxic, and IS the very thing it purports to want to want to end. Two wrongs do not make a right. And sometimes the supposed wrongs aren't even wrongs. Vaccines were dangerous. Men arent women.
Hardly an apt analogy. Unvaxed aren’t wandering the streets killing people. And I have never heard anyone say what you said. Hamas are animals. That I have heard.
Ive heard hamas, all gazans, all Palestinians, and all Muslims variously being called animals many times, often tied to a sentiment of justification or lack of empathy for their death if not outright wishes for it. Here is an example with dozens of quotes:
The propensity to wildly overgeneralize the hate anyone loosely associated with a danger is the same. Let's say the danger in one case is death by disease and the danger in the other is death by terrorism. The danger is real, but you start finding ways in which whole groups of people are loosely associated and therefore support that danger and therefore deserve to suffer and die things get out of control.
I haven’t actually heard anyone say anything like that. I have READ things like that. But I believe more what I hear than what I read. People write more extremely than what they really believe, mostly. Also the more extreme voices get amplified.
Back to my comment. I talk to people. IRL. Do you know many people who are extreme against Palestinians. I don’t. I am sure there are some, but I don’t know any. I do know people who are extreme against Israel, but usually a five minute talk laying out a brief history of its founding beginning with the British Mandate of 1920 takes their edge off. In Real Life….most people are far more nuanced than what the internet would lead you to believe. During COVID there were many extremists. They were terrified. But if people aren’t personally terrified they tend to be more even handed. In my experience. Maybe not yours?
Honestly I don't talk to people about politics much at all in real life, much is abstract, you'd never know it was happening. I am white and live in Florida in a middle ground between rich whiter and poor blacker neighborhoods, so you could say racism against blacks is one overgeneralization i would be likely to encounter in the wild.
However it is tempered by people critiquing "N-word shit". Some would say the statements I hear are racist. But in a way they are anti-racist. There is a recognition that specific behaviors, the toxic cultural aspects-- theivery, surly lazy bad attitude at work, bad tipping, sense of entitlement, open drug use, shootings--do not apply to the race or culture as a whole. It acknowledges the statistical truth of pattern recognition whilst allowing one to respect the larger people or culture.
So if your theory is people are moderate, I would say that example fits.
Kimmel, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Ben Stiller,Will Ferrell, Whoopi Goldberg,Jon Stewart, Colbert, Jimmy Fallon,Seth Myers,Alec Baldwin, Rob Reiner, Fran Drescher, Sara Silverman,Howard Stern,Rosie O’Donnell, Chelsea Handler,Samantha Bee.Larry David have all lost touch with reality . The sense of irony that makes for humor. The fun. They no longer have fun. They’re bitter, angry, redundant, lack spontaneity, insight and self deprecation which is the human factor so vital to humor.
Bill Maher deserves credit for stepping outside the pack and giving the unthinkable a chance. And admitting how shocked he was to find Trump not only human, but open, friendly and real.. and how comfortable he was, never having experienced anything comparable with Obama or Hillary who he ardently supported. And Maher is actually funny.
I would otherwise support the trans invasion as a kind of karmic payback for femi-nihilism, except that the girls and women being affected today had nothing to do with this culture's
I think Kimmel is just an asshole. Back in the day, he could dunk on women because it was acceptable. Now that that is no longer acceptable, he just pivoted to a new target, poor white people who he perceives as enemies of The Party.
Kimmel was never funny, and no Late night show is worth watching anymore. Get more laughs watching old Carson Late Night shows on youtube.
I've been doing that too! Joan Rivers was hilarious on Carson.
Find one with Robin Williams and you see true comedic genius
...... or Rodney Dangerfield, or Jonathan Winters..... Hee-Haw is funnier than Kimmel... They don't even try any more.
You all forget the true genius of George Carlin.
As was Don Rickles.
it’s all false applause and laughs! i’ve been to his studio live… they prep you to respond to the sign as to when to cheer, when to applause and make it a competition between the two sections!!
The argument that men in women's sports is a non-issue because it barely happens is totally disingenuous. Here's how to prove it:
"Okay, Kimmel, the president already signed an executive order over this thing that never happens. Since it never happens, let's stop wasting time arguing about it and abide by the executive order because it's a thing that DOESN'T MATTER."
By refusing to do this, Kimmel and his lot - not the conservatives - are the ones continuing to make a big deal over something they claim never happens and therefore isn't worth anyone's time. Their whole line of argument is a lie, because their ideology prevents them from accepting biological reality. They are in a rhetorical corner, and they at some level know it.
It should be a non-issue. But courts, judges, governments, sanctioning bodies, trans activists, school boards, late night TV hosts, woke politicians, etc. who attempt to force trans athletes into competition with women are making it an issue. It's hard to believe it's even a thing worthy of discussion, but here we are.
We all know their gaslighting commie playbook:
1) That's not happening / That's a crazy "far-right" (i.e., right of Chairman Mao) conspiracy theory!
2) OK, it's happening, but not very much / it isn't a big deal.
3) It's happening, and it's a good thing, actually.
4) Shut up, peasant, the people complaining about it are the "real" problem.
5) We're making it mandatory for everybody.
Genius response!
the focus on racism, discrimination, all precursors to this is perpetuated by the recruited armies of the democrats… They recruit and mentor and groom ! They tried it on me, they do it to the youth…
watch the documentary on “ The Coddling of American Minds” it validated what we’ve been seeing… for years now slowly evolve. Our voting choices have huge and not always immediate consequences… slow erosion. Like a body pummeled by drugs and alcohol, poor diet, over the years will eventually show signs of disease related to those choices!
This trope of "it effects virtually no one" is so easily exposed as utterly illogical. If it is such a minor issue, then why should dysphoric men care about being permitted to compete in women's sports at all (if it affects so few people)?
Politically, the point is even dumber, as your recent debate results showed. If it's such a minor issue and affects "virtually no one," why are Democrats and Green party members making of this a hill they are willing to die on? It's political malpractice to the point of being politically suicidal.
As a man who typically votes Republican, I hope Kimmel keeps going down this path.
It affects a huge amount of people because it is a blatant attack on feminism. Women's rights are at risk of being lost.
They've already been lost, which is an additional reason why Kimmel's trope is illogical. Look no further than the governing bodies of the Olympic games for an example of womens' rights being lost. Why women do not band together and fight harder against this is the surprising part. This substack is a start.
and we thought the left cared about women’s rights! what happened?!
that’s the trope they used to change the definition of marriage…. who cares?! won’t affect me!! Let em love who they want! That’s all harmless, however it is the definition change that isn’t harmless!!
We are living those consequences of those voting choices we made as a society.
https://youtube.com/shorts/VEmaaFG5BHo?si=UALkF2BQvyvJHpVG
exactly! i’m not alone! good to know!! :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistakes_Were_Made_(But_Not_by_Me)
true. And Colbert might even be worse! There has been some clearly observable 'metamorphosis' (over the last 20 years or so) of formerly funny tv people turning into government spokesmen. Letterman is another one--hilarious during his NBC days, gradually turning into a politicized grump during his CBS days. Craig Kilborn has strongly hinted that he basically got out of the business b/c politics doesn't interest him and he didn't want to sell his soul and become a government shill. I follow Kilby and mostly don't care about the rest of them. Norm Macdonald was really good too.
Norm!
maybe he would see it if her put the transwomen on the trampolines in bikinis?
😂 that’s hilarious!
Ooooo good one!!
💯He is so unwatchable. All he does is bash Trump. It's so tired. I don't know how he and Adam Carolla are able to maintain a friendship but kudos to them both!
Like reality speaks says above, Kimmel has never been funny.
Same goes for Oliver, and the other talking heads of late night TV.
In Living Colour was way ahead of the times, and, at the time, edgy.
But for Kimmel to dismiss trans athletes in women's sports as a non-issue, makes him a well paid imbecile.
He really is a jerk.
“makes him a well paid imbecile”
Straight to the point!
Was he ever funny??
Thanks for writing this. We spent years looking forward to late night comedy and the minute Kimmel, Meyers, Colbert, even Fallon started on their pompous lecturing, no-it-all-non-comedy acts of 2020 forward, we were done. I had just photographed Editor in Chief of the Babylon Bee and his family, prior to the pandemic and if it weren't for the Bee we literally had no humor during that time. The minute humor was swept up by the state, with the exception of a few comedians, you knew it was over. And -- one of our friends lost an incredible cross-fit athletic son at 34, in 2022, due to his refusal to be vaccinated and the way he was treated, as a result, when he drove himself to the emergency room for help. Medical murder from that point on. I let the family have my Substack to call attention to this extremely scripted death. This is what Kimmel called for.
I have been a lifelong Democrat. I have voted and financially supported Democrats for years. In the last election, even though I am not a Trump lover, I voted 100% for Republicans. I voted Republican up and down the ticket.
In my mind, the Democrats were the party that advocated for the poor, supported women and gay rights, cared about the environment, and were the champions of free speech. I don’t see that anymore. There were two big issues that drove me to completely flip my voting.
The first issue is the transgender craze. I started reading books. I read the following:
Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality (Helen Joyce)
Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters (Abigail Shrier)
The Abolition of Sex: How the “Transgender” Agenda Harms Women and Girls. (Kara Dansky)
Unsporting: How Trans Activism and Science Denial are Destroying Sport (Linda Blade and Barbara Kay)
Lost in Trans Nation (Miriam Grossman)
It has become apparent to me that this insanity is growing and is not a niche issue. It directly affects well over half the population in a negative way. That >50% includes all women and girls, families with children, and children themselves. It is taking dignity, wins, and scholarships away from girls and women, it is destroying families, and it is permanently harming children who take wrong sex hormones and opt for surgery. It must end.
I know it is name calling, but I now refer to trans activists as
Trans Unhinged Radical Delusionists or TURDs
The second issue is climate/energy. Biden’s climate policies assume that the world faces an apocalyptic future if we do not aggressively attack climate change. That is just not the case.
>>If you look at the IPCC latest assessment (AR6), Working Group 1 (The Science) Chapter 12 (Risk Assessment), table 12.12 you will see that even under the most extreme and totally impossible scenario (all energy provided by coal - RPC 8.5) we won’t see increases in flooding, hurricanes, and draughts even by 2100.
IPCC AR6, WG1, Chapter 12
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Chapter12.pdf
You can see just the table here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQRz306a4AAvcWN?format=jpg&name=medium
>>The world is not falling apart. John Stossel just published the 1st part of a two-part series on climate change myths.
Climate Change Myths Part 1: Polar Bears, Arctic Ice, and Food Shortages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4fChyXPgj0
Why is this important? The solutions proposed by Democrats to address climate change include replacing all our energy (in a short time frame) with wind, solar, hydro and batteries. It is not going to happen and moving in that direction will negatively affect women, particularly women in the 3rd world, the poor in general, and the rest of us through a very expensive and unreliable grid.
>>See Figure 1 Risk Area Summary – MISO’s reliability Issues
NERC: 2024 Long-Term Reliability Assessment
https://www.nerc.com/pa/RAPA/ra/Reliability%20Assessments%20DL/NERC_Long%20Term%20Reliability%20Assessment_2024.pdf
>>Impact on Women in 3rd world countries
The People Climate Activists Leave Behind | Robert Bryce
https://youtu.be/hdsz2_XWevs?si=EJRyiOf6KVdK7N-6
>>Cost, deaths due to climate disasters
An Inconvenient Truth: Our climate policies can’t save the environment. So, what will? | Bjorn Lomborg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN_ARfPY9rY
Ideology not facts seem to have taken over the Democratic Party.
It continues to amaze me that this is even a discussion. Happy (for once) to see the common sense decision in the UK today about the definition of a woman. Again, the left sees allowing men to compete in women's sports as a hill to die on and as the tide turns they are getting more and more desperate. Kimmel's terrible ratings, along with the rest of the ridiculous talking heads, shows how irrelevant they are becoming.
Do they know they are basically talking to themselves?
Calling Trump supporters animals and having no empathy for people who chose not to get vaccinated and suggesting they deserve to die for their (hypothetical) wrong choice sounds exactly like the the attitudes i hear right now against Palestinians. "they are animals and they all asked for death when they made the wrong choice to vote for Hamas. so oh well. good riddance."
this kind of rhetoric suggesting whole groups of people are intrinsically morally corrupt and less than and are ruining things for everyone else--the good people--and therefore deserve to die or be killed is insidiously dangerous, toxic, and IS the very thing it purports to want to want to end. Two wrongs do not make a right. And sometimes the supposed wrongs aren't even wrongs. Vaccines were dangerous. Men arent women.
Hardly an apt analogy. Unvaxed aren’t wandering the streets killing people. And I have never heard anyone say what you said. Hamas are animals. That I have heard.
Ive heard hamas, all gazans, all Palestinians, and all Muslims variously being called animals many times, often tied to a sentiment of justification or lack of empathy for their death if not outright wishes for it. Here is an example with dozens of quotes:
https://youtu.be/43JFdXCf9v4?si=11UgGaEzSebvJZd2
The propensity to wildly overgeneralize the hate anyone loosely associated with a danger is the same. Let's say the danger in one case is death by disease and the danger in the other is death by terrorism. The danger is real, but you start finding ways in which whole groups of people are loosely associated and therefore support that danger and therefore deserve to suffer and die things get out of control.
I haven’t actually heard anyone say anything like that. I have READ things like that. But I believe more what I hear than what I read. People write more extremely than what they really believe, mostly. Also the more extreme voices get amplified.
ok, well check out the video. when i say quotes i meant people firsthand on camera.
Back to my comment. I talk to people. IRL. Do you know many people who are extreme against Palestinians. I don’t. I am sure there are some, but I don’t know any. I do know people who are extreme against Israel, but usually a five minute talk laying out a brief history of its founding beginning with the British Mandate of 1920 takes their edge off. In Real Life….most people are far more nuanced than what the internet would lead you to believe. During COVID there were many extremists. They were terrified. But if people aren’t personally terrified they tend to be more even handed. In my experience. Maybe not yours?
Honestly I don't talk to people about politics much at all in real life, much is abstract, you'd never know it was happening. I am white and live in Florida in a middle ground between rich whiter and poor blacker neighborhoods, so you could say racism against blacks is one overgeneralization i would be likely to encounter in the wild.
However it is tempered by people critiquing "N-word shit". Some would say the statements I hear are racist. But in a way they are anti-racist. There is a recognition that specific behaviors, the toxic cultural aspects-- theivery, surly lazy bad attitude at work, bad tipping, sense of entitlement, open drug use, shootings--do not apply to the race or culture as a whole. It acknowledges the statistical truth of pattern recognition whilst allowing one to respect the larger people or culture.
So if your theory is people are moderate, I would say that example fits.
Who is Jimmy Kimmel, Jenn?😎
Nice one!
Kimmel, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Ben Stiller,Will Ferrell, Whoopi Goldberg,Jon Stewart, Colbert, Jimmy Fallon,Seth Myers,Alec Baldwin, Rob Reiner, Fran Drescher, Sara Silverman,Howard Stern,Rosie O’Donnell, Chelsea Handler,Samantha Bee.Larry David have all lost touch with reality . The sense of irony that makes for humor. The fun. They no longer have fun. They’re bitter, angry, redundant, lack spontaneity, insight and self deprecation which is the human factor so vital to humor.
Bill Maher deserves credit for stepping outside the pack and giving the unthinkable a chance. And admitting how shocked he was to find Trump not only human, but open, friendly and real.. and how comfortable he was, never having experienced anything comparable with Obama or Hillary who he ardently supported. And Maher is actually funny.
I would otherwise support the trans invasion as a kind of karmic payback for femi-nihilism, except that the girls and women being affected today had nothing to do with this culture's
creation.
Its all too easy for unhinged
progressives to push the envelope,
especially when they can force
someone else to pay the postage.
I think Kimmel is just an asshole. Back in the day, he could dunk on women because it was acceptable. Now that that is no longer acceptable, he just pivoted to a new target, poor white people who he perceives as enemies of The Party.