This is the way. I’ve said this for several years now. I know it sucks in the short term, but if women refuse to compete against biological males this will be over much sooner.
It shouldn't have to fall upon the shoulders of individual female athletes to do this. These women are throwing away hours of preparation, probably lots of money, a social media backlash, idiots screaming at them, and many other things to stand up for basic reality and women's safety.
Where are the officials? The organization? Sports leaders? They sanctioned this bullshit, and now they act like these men are the victims by placing women like Stephanie Turner in the position to have to refuse to participate in a women's sport against a man.
These people should be ashamed of themselves. Also, when this fraud ends, they're going to pretend like none of this happened.
It shouldn’t have to fall on the women’s shoulders, but it’s where it begins, and the only place it can end! Women throughout history that have accepted that “he only hits me when he’s drunk” are the very ones bringing him the beer!
If the first of these freaks who lined up to compete against women was left to compete with himself this would have ended that day! As long as women show up to compete they are giving the next freak a chance!
What tf are you talking about? What is it about males and their total lack of self-awareness and shame?
IF MEN DIDN'T DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO GO ALONG WITH AT ALL
No, that's not where it begins. IT BEGINS WITH MEN. That's not the only place it will end. This will end when men aren't so stupid that they think their perversions should dictate all of reality.
Go talk to the men causing this problem and stop expecting women to clean up the messes you idiots make because that's how it was in the good ol' days of chivalry. Thanks for proving the point I'm making. No, it's not our job to fix every problem. MEN NEED TO STOP CAUSING THEM. That's where it begins and ends.
And nice try with the idiotic male violence analogy. First rule of misogyny--everything men do is blamed upon women, while men still get to play logical and protective.
FOH. You are the problem. You're not rude. You're idiotic. Be quiet.
I never said it didn’t start with the freaks, I said that had women stood up the first time, there wouldn’t have been a second time! The freaks are the problem, so don’t give their craziness a chance to take root!
FOH. You’re not rude. You don’t have the cognitive function to be rude.
As a proud male, I have been thinking that Men's fields should be branded as "Open" classes, so men and trans of any sort can fairly compete in an open class. Then Women's classes can be for biological women only.
I keep hearing that their should be a class for Trans athletes, but too often there is too little funding for most sports that exist to add another class. So "Open" and "Women" seems like a good solution that will never happen.
Congratulations to Stephanie Turner for more guts (balls?) than her opponent. He is a sad sad man, but the USA Fencing Officials should be ashamed.
The whole purpose of the "trans" lie is to purposely invade women's spaces, sports, prisons, etc.
Having an open category for the males and anyone else and then a category for females only would defeat the purpose.
They are not seeking to participate in sport fairly. These men are seeking to validate their delusions by purposely confronting females, possibly hurting them, and daring them to say anything about it. That is what they get off on.
They want to compete against women because they’re not good enough to compete against other men. I don’t know how they can feel good about winning in that way. It’s bizarre.
While most men might be ok with your suggestion, I'd like to suggest something much simpler. If you have a Y chromosome, you are barred from competing in womens sports. If you have a Y chromosome, you are welcome to compete in mens sports. There's no need to change the branding of mens competitions to "open."
The problem isn’t women wanting into men’s sports, it’s men who couldn’t win that want into women’s sports. There are only two sex’s, there should only be male and female divisions.
I would think trans males can already compete with other men. They just aren’t that good and wanna win. Maybe they should identify as twelve and play with the children.
They will not accept that. The mindset is “I say I’m a woman therefore I belong in women’s sport/shelter/prison.” It’s about validation. They’ll never go for competing fairly in an open league.
Many sports already do it this way and have for years. The trans don’t want to play in the Open division. They have had plenty of opportunities to do so (and some do) but many of these TiMs specifically demand to be in the women’s division. I wish more people understood this.
Oh and some sports have also created a trans/nonbinary division separate from the women’s. Guess what happened.
God Bless Stephanie Turner for the courage she showed in taking a knee and refusing to compete with a man who “identifies” as a woman. Shame on USA Fencing for sanctioning such mismatches when it is beyond question that biological males have great advantage over females in physical competition. I appreciate what Stephanie has done for the cause and women who compete.
Stephanie Turner should be honored for her bravery, and USA Fencing should lose all federal taxpayer funding until they keep the two genders separate in their competitions.
Damn right. I coached varsity high school basketball for a decade and fought for girls’ equality with boys—equal access to gyms, practice times, and locker rooms. Now just WTF is this shit?
I applaud this courageous woman. I do feel it's a shame, though, that she felt she had to tell the man she loved and respected him for bullying her sex class. This nonsense would be over if every woman said no. Yes, we shouldn't have to, I get that, but playing nice and waiting for laws and rules to change have not moved the needle nearly far or fast enough.
"While Turner forfeited her match up, risked her reputation and jeopardized friendships, her actions will create a wave of consequences for USA Fencing — the pipeline for fencers in the Olympics."
As a man, I'd like to know how many male followers of this substack agree or disagree with my sentiment: I don't want to see a man representing the U.S. in any womens Olympic sport at the Olympics (or any other sports venue where the U.S. is being represented in competition).
Secondarily, I'd also be curious as to how many women agree or disagree with me.
I’m male and couldn’t agree more. The Olympics in France were thoroughly debased when biological males were permitted to box against biological females. This must end. If you were born with X and Y chromosomes in your cells, you’re male and can’t fairly compete against people born with 2X chromosomes (females)Period. End of discussion
I’m sick of trans identified men claiming to be oppressed while having the full backing and support of elected officials, and countless organizations and institutions. It’s clear who is being oppressed here and it is women. Trans is a men’s rights movement and this is just another example of an entitled man flexing his power over a woman.
...there is a member of the board of directors who supports me...there you have it Jenn. The disease is liberal woke nonsense. Redmon could not shine as a male against men so he identifies as a woman to win matches against women. Stephanie Turner is a hero for her refusal to recognize his gender manipulation for athletic supremacy. God Bless you, Stephanie. We need more Women of Courage, Jenn. How about a book with the stories of those whom have refused to recognize the charade?
Being epic is hard. There is a price. I guarantee she is getting bullied because of her decision.
The moment she took that knee, a little bit more of the lie was exposed. Stephanie Turner became epic—and more powerful than the entire trans movement.
This is the way. I’ve said this for several years now. I know it sucks in the short term, but if women refuse to compete against biological males this will be over much sooner.
It shouldn't have to fall upon the shoulders of individual female athletes to do this. These women are throwing away hours of preparation, probably lots of money, a social media backlash, idiots screaming at them, and many other things to stand up for basic reality and women's safety.
Where are the officials? The organization? Sports leaders? They sanctioned this bullshit, and now they act like these men are the victims by placing women like Stephanie Turner in the position to have to refuse to participate in a women's sport against a man.
These people should be ashamed of themselves. Also, when this fraud ends, they're going to pretend like none of this happened.
They won't get away with it.
It shouldn’t have to fall on the women’s shoulders, but it’s where it begins, and the only place it can end! Women throughout history that have accepted that “he only hits me when he’s drunk” are the very ones bringing him the beer!
If the first of these freaks who lined up to compete against women was left to compete with himself this would have ended that day! As long as women show up to compete they are giving the next freak a chance!
What tf are you talking about? What is it about males and their total lack of self-awareness and shame?
IF MEN DIDN'T DO THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING TO GO ALONG WITH AT ALL
No, that's not where it begins. IT BEGINS WITH MEN. That's not the only place it will end. This will end when men aren't so stupid that they think their perversions should dictate all of reality.
Go talk to the men causing this problem and stop expecting women to clean up the messes you idiots make because that's how it was in the good ol' days of chivalry. Thanks for proving the point I'm making. No, it's not our job to fix every problem. MEN NEED TO STOP CAUSING THEM. That's where it begins and ends.
And nice try with the idiotic male violence analogy. First rule of misogyny--everything men do is blamed upon women, while men still get to play logical and protective.
FOH. You are the problem. You're not rude. You're idiotic. Be quiet.
I never said it didn’t start with the freaks, I said that had women stood up the first time, there wouldn’t have been a second time! The freaks are the problem, so don’t give their craziness a chance to take root!
FOH. You’re not rude. You don’t have the cognitive function to be rude.
That’s right. ‘Splain it to her, dudeass
You are right. It shouldn't fall on the shoulders of these athletes but it does because the majority dare not squeak.
And let me guess, a number of these officials are men. Men (the real kind) who allow this are misogynistic, no matter what bleat.
I would hope that these simple acts of defiance will shame the people facilitating this charade.
I think that THAT is part of the problem. People that push this crap HAVE no shame.
Thanks to your original post, this has been watched far and wide.
Brave woman!
This scenario should have happened in Olympic Women's Boxing last summer...
As a proud male, I have been thinking that Men's fields should be branded as "Open" classes, so men and trans of any sort can fairly compete in an open class. Then Women's classes can be for biological women only.
I keep hearing that their should be a class for Trans athletes, but too often there is too little funding for most sports that exist to add another class. So "Open" and "Women" seems like a good solution that will never happen.
Congratulations to Stephanie Turner for more guts (balls?) than her opponent. He is a sad sad man, but the USA Fencing Officials should be ashamed.
The whole purpose of the "trans" lie is to purposely invade women's spaces, sports, prisons, etc.
Having an open category for the males and anyone else and then a category for females only would defeat the purpose.
They are not seeking to participate in sport fairly. These men are seeking to validate their delusions by purposely confronting females, possibly hurting them, and daring them to say anything about it. That is what they get off on.
Of course.
Maybe we brand the open class as the "They/Them" class so they feel more included!
I think James Jordan's idea is very good. It allows all to compete and keeps women's sports for women only.
This has been tried.
And why wouldn't it work. Two simple categories.?
Tons of leagues already have "open" categories. The trans guys specifically demand to compete in the women's category.
And they would not be able to
They want to compete against women because they’re not good enough to compete against other men. I don’t know how they can feel good about winning in that way. It’s bizarre.
2 genders.
Everyone else is mentally ill.
and hate women
While most men might be ok with your suggestion, I'd like to suggest something much simpler. If you have a Y chromosome, you are barred from competing in womens sports. If you have a Y chromosome, you are welcome to compete in mens sports. There's no need to change the branding of mens competitions to "open."
That's how it's done in chess. There is no men's division. Anyone can play in the "Open".
The problem isn’t women wanting into men’s sports, it’s men who couldn’t win that want into women’s sports. There are only two sex’s, there should only be male and female divisions.
I would think trans males can already compete with other men. They just aren’t that good and wanna win. Maybe they should identify as twelve and play with the children.
They will not accept that. The mindset is “I say I’m a woman therefore I belong in women’s sport/shelter/prison.” It’s about validation. They’ll never go for competing fairly in an open league.
We have the "Open" and "Women" sections in chess, but that hasn't stopped WIM Yosha Iglesias from competing in the women's section. So, pathetic!
This is what horse racing has done for centuries. Literally.
Many sports already do it this way and have for years. The trans don’t want to play in the Open division. They have had plenty of opportunities to do so (and some do) but many of these TiMs specifically demand to be in the women’s division. I wish more people understood this.
Oh and some sports have also created a trans/nonbinary division separate from the women’s. Guess what happened.
God Bless Stephanie Turner for the courage she showed in taking a knee and refusing to compete with a man who “identifies” as a woman. Shame on USA Fencing for sanctioning such mismatches when it is beyond question that biological males have great advantage over females in physical competition. I appreciate what Stephanie has done for the cause and women who compete.
Stephanie Turner should be honored for her bravery, and USA Fencing should lose all federal taxpayer funding until they keep the two genders separate in their competitions.
Damn right. I coached varsity high school basketball for a decade and fought for girls’ equality with boys—equal access to gyms, practice times, and locker rooms. Now just WTF is this shit?
Apparently they are
Congratulations Stephanie Turner!! You are a champion to girls and women across the country!!
I applaud this courageous woman. I do feel it's a shame, though, that she felt she had to tell the man she loved and respected him for bullying her sex class. This nonsense would be over if every woman said no. Yes, we shouldn't have to, I get that, but playing nice and waiting for laws and rules to change have not moved the needle nearly far or fast enough.
Looking forward to buying whatever shirt she's modeling to help her earn a wage right now.
"While Turner forfeited her match up, risked her reputation and jeopardized friendships, her actions will create a wave of consequences for USA Fencing — the pipeline for fencers in the Olympics."
As a man, I'd like to know how many male followers of this substack agree or disagree with my sentiment: I don't want to see a man representing the U.S. in any womens Olympic sport at the Olympics (or any other sports venue where the U.S. is being represented in competition).
Secondarily, I'd also be curious as to how many women agree or disagree with me.
I’m male and couldn’t agree more. The Olympics in France were thoroughly debased when biological males were permitted to box against biological females. This must end. If you were born with X and Y chromosomes in your cells, you’re male and can’t fairly compete against people born with 2X chromosomes (females)Period. End of discussion
I’m sick of trans identified men claiming to be oppressed while having the full backing and support of elected officials, and countless organizations and institutions. It’s clear who is being oppressed here and it is women. Trans is a men’s rights movement and this is just another example of an entitled man flexing his power over a woman.
...there is a member of the board of directors who supports me...there you have it Jenn. The disease is liberal woke nonsense. Redmon could not shine as a male against men so he identifies as a woman to win matches against women. Stephanie Turner is a hero for her refusal to recognize his gender manipulation for athletic supremacy. God Bless you, Stephanie. We need more Women of Courage, Jenn. How about a book with the stories of those whom have refused to recognize the charade?
More of THIS. If the very athletes affected by this lunacy won’t stand up for themselves, how can anyone else?
Being epic is hard. There is a price. I guarantee she is getting bullied because of her decision.
The moment she took that knee, a little bit more of the lie was exposed. Stephanie Turner became epic—and more powerful than the entire trans movement.
I have been saying this all day but nothing is going to change until you stop voting for democrats. They don't care about anyone's opinion.