The "solution" presented by CIF is an admission that AB is a boy, and that boys are displacing girls and that it is not fair. If they truly believed that AB is female, they wouldn’t have to make accommodation.
Correct. But they don't want to humiliate him by making him stand on a podium all alone in a "trans" category so they let him compete in girls. Its such a dumb non solution. The only solution - boys category. girls category. AB can compete in boys. He's a boy.
California is now on record that they believe the feelings of a boy with gender confusion matters more than having women’s sports. The CIF “solution” reenforces how important they think it is to reward the boy's selfish behavior. They’ve got it backwards. Give the women their awards and give the boy a token medal. They are making the girls’ medals the equivalent of participation trophies. How more clearly can they announce that women don’t matter?
Hell, every psychotic who thinks we are in the end times should get a free Rapture! Step out of your running car, leave it right in the middle of traffic. Strip and just stand there waiting to be assumed into Heaven. NO TICKETS for being absolutely laugh-out-loud ridiculous except that you really are having tangible negative results on other people's lives.
Token medals aren't always insults. I remember the 1985 Western Open when an amateur.. Scott Verplank... won the event. It had been thirty years since an amateur had last won a PGA tour event. He got a nice shiny medal instead of a prize, but at least he had EARNED his medal. Ironically, he also won the 1985 Western Amateur... which has had many distinguished college players like Jack Nicklaus as winners... in match play. After graduating from Oklahoma State, he turned pro in 1986 and went on to win four more PGA tour titles for cash despite playing with Type 1 diabetes and fighting various injuries. A few players, most notably Phil Mickelson, have repeated his feat by winning a PGA tour event as an amateur, in recent years.
Gavin Newsom's wife did a video for Instagram where she is wearing a rainbow tee that appears to say "equality". She is promoting what she calls an "evidence based" program to help parents when they are struggling to have difficult conversations with their children. Evidence based. What is more evidence based than the biological reality of xx chromosomes and female sex characteristics and xy chromosomes and male sex characteristics? A penis is evidence that the individual is a male and should compete in male sports. A vagina is evidence that the individual is a female and should compete in female sports. AB Hernandez is a male who won't compete as a male because he is a poor athlete. I guess it's easier to lie and say you're a girl than to be a loser.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s like having to say “cis” in front of “woman.” Shouldn’t be necessary. A cavity made by inverting the penis or using intestinal tissue is not a vagina. (If anything deserves the term “front hole,” maybe it’s that abomination being called a “neovagina.”)
Not at all. An individual can choose to do whatever they want to their body and can call themselves whatever they want. There is; however, a lot of road between living AS a woman and BEING a woman. Only women/girls who ARE female should be in female sports. Erasing the line is disrespectful of women, biological women. This is not fear based or a matter of disrespecting trans people. It is a matter of respecting girls/women. AB Hernandez is a boy, a male. He should compete against other males. But he wouldn’t win.
Oh, we're in agreement. I'm referring to conversations with the fully captured, where they reject any source for evidence that challenges their ideology as an inherently malignant source.
There are a lot of black girls on those podiums. I don’t normally like to talk about race, but I wonder how many black girls (who are considered to be marginalized by the left) he displaced on his way to the state championship? And where are THEIR defenders? Does trans rights take precedence over the rights of blacks—esp. black females? (I’m using “logic” from the left, so I am really confused.)🤦🏾♀️
You’re absolutely right. It’s literally a white male stealing opportunities from black females. If he didn’t claim magic “girly” feelings, they would be screaming from the rooftops that he’s a terrible human being. It’s interesting to see how in the victimhood hierarchy of the left, white straight males - supposedly the worst of the worst - have found a way to flip things so that if they put on a dress and call themselves a “lesbian” they go from being the most vilified to the most marginalized.
I generally do not comment on the mental gymnastics of this ideology, have never used the terms of the ideology, yet the victimhood hierarchy caught my attention. Im a 66 yo, Black, native Californian, Catholic educated, Lesbian 2nd wave feminist ex-Democrat now Independent who ran track in grade school, CIF track in high school and AAU after. I don't have children yet am deeply in this fight. While I was nose to the grindstone in my career, looked away for the last 20 years, gay marriage passed so I'm done actively supporting LGB causes, look up and first time understand WTF Obama started and Biden tried to enshrine by changing Title IX. Now, related to the AB travesty: in the victomhood hierarchy, he is a Latino male who doesn't believe he is male. Latino = person of color when it fits an agenda imo. So no conflict of ideology. And whether or not AB is hetero or homosexual, he is accepted in the "queer" circle (hence why the girl he shared the podium with embraced him in the SF Chronicle while proclaiming she is queer). But untangling all this nonsense is not necessary. Human sex is immutable. No human can change sex. And we adults all need to get organized and get all laws changed to reinstate sex separated spaces. And remove the teaching of this ideology in public schools.
He is a Latino male, but to me that is besides the point. I posted a photo a few weeks ago of an actual white male lining up to race several black, female competitors, so it does happen. I am assuming he won. Where's the outrage?
I hear ya. One could wonder such a thing, among many others. Yet with a focus on first principles, only adults, regardless of
race/nationality/sex/class, who believe that sex is immutable and society is best organized around sex separated spaces, are joined with us in this fight.
The adults are the referees and meet officials who are allowing this to happen. It’s not the athletes’ responsibility—-it’s the folks who are running the meet. And that is where the shame lies. When the officials stood by and permitted “Lia” Thomas to swim his first meet as a woman in Akron Ohio, that’s when I resigned as a swim official after 30 years. Sadly that was 4 years ago. And all they have done is dance around the issue.
Imagine if this boy put on blackface and wanted to be a black athlete. I wonder how far that would go.
These boys themselves are victims, hostages of the AGP rights movement, though that doesn’t excuse their intrusion into girls’ spaces. These kids have all been indoctrinated in this dangerous new ideology, to everyone’s detriment.
What’s going to be happening as time goes on and these poor people age out of this insanity, and they are left with a mutilated body all these medals and notoriety for being the first for something
And we’ll see them on TikTok doing videos about how men can’t handle them
It is so interesting to me that the left keeps stating that there is no difference or advantage between a biological man/woman and a trans person, yet I really haven't heard of any trans men competing against biological males in sports...hmmm! I say again, where are all the feminist women that say we should believe all women; my body, my choice; shouldn't this include supporting all girls/women from predators in the locker room and in their sport??
well i would consider myself a feminist. so there's that. but there are tons of others. Including my friend Kara Dansky - you should read her substack. https://karadansky.substack.com/
I’m a feminist too. Lots of us are. See Women’s Sports Policy Working Group, StrongerWomen.Substack.com, oodles more. Can’t understand why ppl think no feminists care. Some of us work on this full time.
YES! Thank you, LOCKER ROOM! Is AB in the girls' locker room with the others on the team? AB should not be. It isn't right for the other girls to have to shower and change if AB is present.
Wow! CNN....the interview with Julie was appalling! There aren't a lot of highly politicized things that really disgust me or make me angry, but the promotion of the ridiculous notion that a boy can BE a girl or a girl can BE a boy is my hot button issue. Go dress like a girl. Wear make up. Change your name. Do whatever it is that makes you happy. But when you succumb to your own delusion and think the external trappings you have picked magically transform you into a female....it's time to get some help.
Sadly Jennifer, a “celebration of inclusion” is pure Orwellian bull shit. When are the girl athletes and their parents going to say “no more” and boycott (girlcott?) the events that boys are allowed to enter as well as the medals ceremonies and the nonsense of sharing the podium with a “show of togetherness”?!
Why don’t the girls all quit in protest? I would not compete but I don’t know what that would do to their college choices/scholarships. And how is this allowed to go on when a federal law/EO has been passed/written, outlawing it? Pull the federal $ from the states that allow this craziness.🤦🏻♀️
I will say this again, this will never, ever end until ALL girls & women...REAL girls & women, outright refuse to participate in the insanity, let the boy compete alone. How long will the schools & sports programs continue financing a sport with one, single solitary athlete? How long will they continue keeping coaches, announcers, referees, etc. on the payroll for a sports program with one athlete? How many sponsors will they get for a one athlete team or event? How long will they continue with this madness if they only have a need to order one team uniform for the upcoming year's sports program? How long will they continue the insanity when they have no fans or spectators showing up for sporting events to watch a single athlete compete? A trans pitcher...who would he have to pitch to? A trans runner...let him run the track alone? A trans swimmer...let him swim alone. A trans Fencer...let him sling swords in the air against an imaginary opponent. How long will it continue when these sporting events or programs are generating zero money, spectators, fans or interest? It's great to see a few women stand up for themselves here & there, but
I have been waiting to see entire teams of girls finally stand up for themselves and say "no, WE will not compete against a boy, WE will not participate in the insanity!" I honestly am shocked & dumbfounded it hasn't happened yet and losing hope it ever will. These girls & women keep waiting on someone else to stop it... the govt, the schools, some sport governing body or organization or new laws to put a stop to boys stealing their sport, achievements, trophies, medals, scholarships & titles when they themselves have the power to put an end to it all. 🤷♀️
But then there will be no girls team. They won't bring it back. They'll get used to not spending the money and girls' programs will stay gone. Trans-identified men are not the only men that don't believe girls and women shouldn't have their own sports.
I don't believe that, sports is a money making business. They will not get rid of all women's sports to protect a handful of transgender and I don't believe there is an abundance of people in this world that want to abolish women's sports anymore than I believe there is an abundance of people in this world that see women as "less than"
What an insult. Why is he sporting a different medal than the 1st place female finisher? Did they give him a special medal for participation?
Am I only one to think he looks gay and that’s likely why he’s been given the sympathy vote to participate in female sports? Not the first time I’ve seen this. If he’s gay, how terribly homophobic to give him a pass - which is to say he can’t be good enough to compete against boys (or wouldn’t be accepted by other boys) so it’s okay for him to compete with the girls. In California nonetheless. Where being gay is okay. Just train harder, dude … which is what so many men who think they’re women have mocked women with.
I am not a mental health expert. But yes, I have seen posts that indicate the numbers of children with "gender dysphoria" are also victims of emotional and/or sexual abuse, as documented by research papers. Without diving deep into said research, I've always been aware of the positive impact of loving nurture (my own family) and learned of the opposite as shared by close friends and their experiences. So wondering about the environment a child was raised in seems rational.
The "solution" presented by CIF is an admission that AB is a boy, and that boys are displacing girls and that it is not fair. If they truly believed that AB is female, they wouldn’t have to make accommodation.
Correct. But they don't want to humiliate him by making him stand on a podium all alone in a "trans" category so they let him compete in girls. Its such a dumb non solution. The only solution - boys category. girls category. AB can compete in boys. He's a boy.
California is now on record that they believe the feelings of a boy with gender confusion matters more than having women’s sports. The CIF “solution” reenforces how important they think it is to reward the boy's selfish behavior. They’ve got it backwards. Give the women their awards and give the boy a token medal. They are making the girls’ medals the equivalent of participation trophies. How more clearly can they announce that women don’t matter?
Do you think California will legislate Ozempic be provided to all anorexics?
Love the analogy. I wonder how many actually got it?
Hell, every psychotic who thinks we are in the end times should get a free Rapture! Step out of your running car, leave it right in the middle of traffic. Strip and just stand there waiting to be assumed into Heaven. NO TICKETS for being absolutely laugh-out-loud ridiculous except that you really are having tangible negative results on other people's lives.
Token medals aren't always insults. I remember the 1985 Western Open when an amateur.. Scott Verplank... won the event. It had been thirty years since an amateur had last won a PGA tour event. He got a nice shiny medal instead of a prize, but at least he had EARNED his medal. Ironically, he also won the 1985 Western Amateur... which has had many distinguished college players like Jack Nicklaus as winners... in match play. After graduating from Oklahoma State, he turned pro in 1986 and went on to win four more PGA tour titles for cash despite playing with Type 1 diabetes and fighting various injuries. A few players, most notably Phil Mickelson, have repeated his feat by winning a PGA tour event as an amateur, in recent years.
Gavin Newsom's wife did a video for Instagram where she is wearing a rainbow tee that appears to say "equality". She is promoting what she calls an "evidence based" program to help parents when they are struggling to have difficult conversations with their children. Evidence based. What is more evidence based than the biological reality of xx chromosomes and female sex characteristics and xy chromosomes and male sex characteristics? A penis is evidence that the individual is a male and should compete in male sports. A vagina is evidence that the individual is a female and should compete in female sports. AB Hernandez is a male who won't compete as a male because he is a poor athlete. I guess it's easier to lie and say you're a girl than to be a loser.
"A vagina is evidence" is my favorite line I've heard in a while.
Probably better insert the adjective "real" before "vagina".
I get what you’re saying, but it’s like having to say “cis” in front of “woman.” Shouldn’t be necessary. A cavity made by inverting the penis or using intestinal tissue is not a vagina. (If anything deserves the term “front hole,” maybe it’s that abomination being called a “neovagina.”)
"Evidence, but not that evidence; that's TERF evidence"
Not at all. An individual can choose to do whatever they want to their body and can call themselves whatever they want. There is; however, a lot of road between living AS a woman and BEING a woman. Only women/girls who ARE female should be in female sports. Erasing the line is disrespectful of women, biological women. This is not fear based or a matter of disrespecting trans people. It is a matter of respecting girls/women. AB Hernandez is a boy, a male. He should compete against other males. But he wouldn’t win.
Oh, we're in agreement. I'm referring to conversations with the fully captured, where they reject any source for evidence that challenges their ideology as an inherently malignant source.
There are a lot of black girls on those podiums. I don’t normally like to talk about race, but I wonder how many black girls (who are considered to be marginalized by the left) he displaced on his way to the state championship? And where are THEIR defenders? Does trans rights take precedence over the rights of blacks—esp. black females? (I’m using “logic” from the left, so I am really confused.)🤦🏾♀️
You’re absolutely right. It’s literally a white male stealing opportunities from black females. If he didn’t claim magic “girly” feelings, they would be screaming from the rooftops that he’s a terrible human being. It’s interesting to see how in the victimhood hierarchy of the left, white straight males - supposedly the worst of the worst - have found a way to flip things so that if they put on a dress and call themselves a “lesbian” they go from being the most vilified to the most marginalized.
I generally do not comment on the mental gymnastics of this ideology, have never used the terms of the ideology, yet the victimhood hierarchy caught my attention. Im a 66 yo, Black, native Californian, Catholic educated, Lesbian 2nd wave feminist ex-Democrat now Independent who ran track in grade school, CIF track in high school and AAU after. I don't have children yet am deeply in this fight. While I was nose to the grindstone in my career, looked away for the last 20 years, gay marriage passed so I'm done actively supporting LGB causes, look up and first time understand WTF Obama started and Biden tried to enshrine by changing Title IX. Now, related to the AB travesty: in the victomhood hierarchy, he is a Latino male who doesn't believe he is male. Latino = person of color when it fits an agenda imo. So no conflict of ideology. And whether or not AB is hetero or homosexual, he is accepted in the "queer" circle (hence why the girl he shared the podium with embraced him in the SF Chronicle while proclaiming she is queer). But untangling all this nonsense is not necessary. Human sex is immutable. No human can change sex. And we adults all need to get organized and get all laws changed to reinstate sex separated spaces. And remove the teaching of this ideology in public schools.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
He is a Latino male, but to me that is besides the point. I posted a photo a few weeks ago of an actual white male lining up to race several black, female competitors, so it does happen. I am assuming he won. Where's the outrage?
I hear ya. One could wonder such a thing, among many others. Yet with a focus on first principles, only adults, regardless of
race/nationality/sex/class, who believe that sex is immutable and society is best organized around sex separated spaces, are joined with us in this fight.
The girls are not the adults.
The adults are the referees and meet officials who are allowing this to happen. It’s not the athletes’ responsibility—-it’s the folks who are running the meet. And that is where the shame lies. When the officials stood by and permitted “Lia” Thomas to swim his first meet as a woman in Akron Ohio, that’s when I resigned as a swim official after 30 years. Sadly that was 4 years ago. And all they have done is dance around the issue.
Imagine if this boy put on blackface and wanted to be a black athlete. I wonder how far that would go.
Good on you for getting out when William Thomas started prancing around in womanface.
I’ve been offended by these pretenders since the first time I saw Dylan Mulvaney’s act which is 100% mockery of women, and as offensive as blackface.
The CIF response is just short of ridiculous...
In the hope that it will appease some.
It won't.
And shouldn't.
These boys themselves are victims, hostages of the AGP rights movement, though that doesn’t excuse their intrusion into girls’ spaces. These kids have all been indoctrinated in this dangerous new ideology, to everyone’s detriment.
What’s going to be happening as time goes on and these poor people age out of this insanity, and they are left with a mutilated body all these medals and notoriety for being the first for something
And we’ll see them on TikTok doing videos about how men can’t handle them
It is so interesting to me that the left keeps stating that there is no difference or advantage between a biological man/woman and a trans person, yet I really haven't heard of any trans men competing against biological males in sports...hmmm! I say again, where are all the feminist women that say we should believe all women; my body, my choice; shouldn't this include supporting all girls/women from predators in the locker room and in their sport??
well i would consider myself a feminist. so there's that. but there are tons of others. Including my friend Kara Dansky - you should read her substack. https://karadansky.substack.com/
These trans athletes and the people that support them are predators. They are taking the futures of hard working women and girls and destroying them.
I consider myself a feminist too. I will check out these substacks.
I’m a feminist too. Lots of us are. See Women’s Sports Policy Working Group, StrongerWomen.Substack.com, oodles more. Can’t understand why ppl think no feminists care. Some of us work on this full time.
Good to know. I will check out your substack. Thank you!
Thanks, JC! Would love to hear how you like it.
YES! Thank you, LOCKER ROOM! Is AB in the girls' locker room with the others on the team? AB should not be. It isn't right for the other girls to have to shower and change if AB is present.
Wow! CNN....the interview with Julie was appalling! There aren't a lot of highly politicized things that really disgust me or make me angry, but the promotion of the ridiculous notion that a boy can BE a girl or a girl can BE a boy is my hot button issue. Go dress like a girl. Wear make up. Change your name. Do whatever it is that makes you happy. But when you succumb to your own delusion and think the external trappings you have picked magically transform you into a female....it's time to get some help.
Grrrrrrr he’s a thief and a liar and this is horrible!
Sadly Jennifer, a “celebration of inclusion” is pure Orwellian bull shit. When are the girl athletes and their parents going to say “no more” and boycott (girlcott?) the events that boys are allowed to enter as well as the medals ceremonies and the nonsense of sharing the podium with a “show of togetherness”?!
Why don’t the girls all quit in protest? I would not compete but I don’t know what that would do to their college choices/scholarships. And how is this allowed to go on when a federal law/EO has been passed/written, outlawing it? Pull the federal $ from the states that allow this craziness.🤦🏻♀️
The solution is for good people to stop voting for the party causing this crap to happen
I will say this again, this will never, ever end until ALL girls & women...REAL girls & women, outright refuse to participate in the insanity, let the boy compete alone. How long will the schools & sports programs continue financing a sport with one, single solitary athlete? How long will they continue keeping coaches, announcers, referees, etc. on the payroll for a sports program with one athlete? How many sponsors will they get for a one athlete team or event? How long will they continue with this madness if they only have a need to order one team uniform for the upcoming year's sports program? How long will they continue the insanity when they have no fans or spectators showing up for sporting events to watch a single athlete compete? A trans pitcher...who would he have to pitch to? A trans runner...let him run the track alone? A trans swimmer...let him swim alone. A trans Fencer...let him sling swords in the air against an imaginary opponent. How long will it continue when these sporting events or programs are generating zero money, spectators, fans or interest? It's great to see a few women stand up for themselves here & there, but
I have been waiting to see entire teams of girls finally stand up for themselves and say "no, WE will not compete against a boy, WE will not participate in the insanity!" I honestly am shocked & dumbfounded it hasn't happened yet and losing hope it ever will. These girls & women keep waiting on someone else to stop it... the govt, the schools, some sport governing body or organization or new laws to put a stop to boys stealing their sport, achievements, trophies, medals, scholarships & titles when they themselves have the power to put an end to it all. 🤷♀️
Then & only then will the madness end
But then there will be no girls team. They won't bring it back. They'll get used to not spending the money and girls' programs will stay gone. Trans-identified men are not the only men that don't believe girls and women shouldn't have their own sports.
I don't believe that, sports is a money making business. They will not get rid of all women's sports to protect a handful of transgender and I don't believe there is an abundance of people in this world that want to abolish women's sports anymore than I believe there is an abundance of people in this world that see women as "less than"
What an insult. Why is he sporting a different medal than the 1st place female finisher? Did they give him a special medal for participation?
Am I only one to think he looks gay and that’s likely why he’s been given the sympathy vote to participate in female sports? Not the first time I’ve seen this. If he’s gay, how terribly homophobic to give him a pass - which is to say he can’t be good enough to compete against boys (or wouldn’t be accepted by other boys) so it’s okay for him to compete with the girls. In California nonetheless. Where being gay is okay. Just train harder, dude … which is what so many men who think they’re women have mocked women with.
Is this AB’s delusion or his Mother’s? Did she raise him as a girl because SHE wanted a girl? So much to unpack when reality is distorted like this.
I am not a mental health expert. But yes, I have seen posts that indicate the numbers of children with "gender dysphoria" are also victims of emotional and/or sexual abuse, as documented by research papers. Without diving deep into said research, I've always been aware of the positive impact of loving nurture (my own family) and learned of the opposite as shared by close friends and their experiences. So wondering about the environment a child was raised in seems rational.
We also know this childhood trauma/abuse history anecdotally from detransitioners.